Shooting 150 yards and watching the difference on my metal clad target with pellets and the cast LBT slugs is a real eye opener, the pellets bounce off, the bullets shoot thru, hardly any drift, light years flatter in trajectory. Now with my cast slugs in the Condor, it is all out the window, nothing gets shot out of the tops of trees with that gun. Usual maximum range FPE is aroujnd 5 to 6 FPE. I use Chairgun to get maximun range at the velocity I use with any given pellet, and then plot a map with Google earth out around the vineyard to find shooting positions and angles at Starlings on the tops of Doug Firs, to see where I can and can't shoot. You pretty much made my point and thanks for the reply, Stub. Gives us all a bad name out of what? Not just mis-education, but fear pased on as well, I think.Īh, but I"m waxing a little philosophical about it and politics has never been my forte. But he's got the ear of a couple of people and well, I just hate that kind of thing: Talking about what they don't know about passing on the phobias about air guns, fire arms, etc. Do the math and it doesn't pass the smell test to me.
On top of that he touts that he was an engineer for some motor company but in the same breath tells you that he didn't go to college for it. You can't argue with these types of people. Not specific though and not prejudice: He hates anything long and pointed that "shoots" like so many that have been programed to think that way. He wouldn't try it but wanted to give me bloody hell about the virtues of safety and how a pellet could kill someone on the way down.Įven the military doesn't think so by the article I cited. I even told h'm to pick up any one of the small bore pellets I had and see if he could throw it 20 feet, as hard as he could, and see if he could break a pain of glass in a window. I tried to explain all this to this person I was having the conversation. Same thing with those bottle rockets: They may weigh the same but when spent and they come down, it's the same thing as a feather or a leaf competing with a solid rock. But exactly what you were talking about is why it (the pellet) wouldn't catch up to the more massed bullet. Hows that? Yea, I know about the 32 per sec and the same time thing-that is if there were no air to get in the way. If there is no drag and you drop a bullet and shoot another sideways at the same moment and the earth is perfectly flat they will hit at the same moment (or nearly since speed influences time). The force of gravity is always 32 ft/sec/sec. Estimating the drag coefficient tumbling would be a bit difficult but you can do it (with calculus) or estimate it close enough. As it fills with lead the mass would rise. As the pellets shape becomes more aerodynamic the drag coefficient would drop. StubExt wrote:I have worked problems like this in Physics class way back when but a pellet tumbling down would be very high drag relative to its mass. however, a 308 bullet falling at 100fps or more, even if it is backwards when its coming down, i dont want to be the one getting hit with it or even a 223! that being said, light projctiles(read pellets or birdshot)probably do not have enough mass to create anything more than a superficial wound when falling. i guess what im saying is lead or any other projectile material is denser than our bodies and i dont wanna get hit with it. marble will shatter but the lead penetrating the pavement, but wait now i just added another factor to to equation sectional density for equal sized objects of different weights. ie forget the penny thing, drop a marble and a lead ball of the same size(equal size being for gravity reasons, they both fall at the same rate) off the empire state building. you can take a steel bb and a lead bb and drop from the same height and they both hit at the same time even though the lead round weighs more, but we all know that for the same velocity, the heavier round has more energy at impact. I would think that a heavy rifle or pistol bullet falling would be considerably more dangerous than a pellet.
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